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nigel.wagner 01-08-2009 04:06 AM

some new matte concepts (updated 21/08/09) (check last page)
Hi guys

it has been a long time since I posted anything here as work has been very busy. here are a few of my most recent concepts. please crit

nickmarshallvfx 01-08-2009 05:30 AM

Hi Nigel, nice new bunch of concepts here! As you are looking for crits i will go through and offer some pointers on each:

1) Nice colour choices in this one, and a good sense of depth. Scale is a problem tho as there are no repeating elements going back into the painting to tell us how big those distant hills are. The lack of a real midground there is compounding that problem somewhat; its quite hard to read at the bottom of the sketch.

2) Nice depth in this one too. It seems to suffer from not quite knowing how much detail to put in. The water ripples at the bottom are a bit jarring, and i think the piece would be better without them as they grab my attention and draw me away form taking the piece in as a whole.

3) This piece i feel is probably the weakest of the 5. The value range is not strong enough. For a strong light source we would expect harsh shadows in the foreground. The lighting doesnt really feel worked out in this. You have made a good start, and the composition is strong, but the light doesnt seem to be affecting the scene. Try to really work out the forms of the rocks.

4) The value range in this one again is not broad enough. I took it into photoshop and made it black and white and it looked very washy, a big contrast boost helped a lot. That seems to be a recurring problem, so look into that. Watch the perspective on the path / road though, it flattens the image out considerably here.

5) This is possibly the strongest IMO. Good colour pallette, good lighting, and a nice value range. The river is the only thing that bothers me in this one. The perspective again seems a little off on this. Also, you should try breaking up the near side of the river with a few tree forms to set it into the shot, and take care to correctly cast shadows onto it from the land masses in the shot. Water recieves the same shadows as any other objects.

Hope that didnt come across too harsh. These are easy to critique because there are a few key things that i think will really enhance some already good paintings. Nice body of work there, look forward to seeing more soon.

And post more! Its been too long since your last sketches! :)


nigel.wagner 01-08-2009 05:37 AM

thanks for the crit space-sprayer.

I think my biggest problem in general is my value range in painting. I am always concious of making my paintings seem to contrasty and as a result they end up slightly washed out.

nickmarshallvfx 01-08-2009 06:09 AM

Incredibly easy to do. Even when im trying to maintain a good value range, i often still have to do a quick saturation pump when im done painting to make it pop.

I must admit tho, i love the looseness of your paintings, i think you nailed that, particularly in the 1st painting. That great looseness to your sketches is what i remember you from when you last posted in the public sketch thread :)


nigel.wagner 01-08-2009 06:22 AM

thank you very much.In my latest painting I have just added an adjustment layer in photoshop which completly desaturated the image in order to check my values at the flick of a switch.

Also is their any training material that you can recommend. I own the 3 dylancole DVDs and the dusso ones. they are the best I have seen so far.

HazyWay 01-08-2009 08:05 AM

i like the style of these very nice and loose and nice colour schemes too i think the 5th is my fav out of all of them
if your looking for training material you might want to get a book on the Hudson river school of painting (dylan cole references them in one of his dvds) though not matte painting the style did infulence matte painters alot

nickmarshallvfx 01-08-2009 10:01 AM

Well, as for specifics, the Dylan Cole and Dusso dvds are often playing in the background whilst i paint, because those two are just masters of light, colour and composition. Its impossible not to be inspired.
But in general id suggest just broadening your horizons as much as possible, so anything you can watch, do. I have lots from gnomon like mark goerners and james clynes environment concept design dvds, and feng zhus shot design dvd etc. Also i have some massive black dvds and just anything i can get my hands on really. It all ends up tying together in some way at some point, even with character design and painting etc.

Most of all tho, keep doin these sketches, they already are very promising and wil get you further than anything else can!


nigel.wagner 01-22-2009 03:56 AM

heres the latest worth showing. again sorry for the long time between posts,work is super busy at the moment. crits welcome as always

s.Gopikrishna 01-22-2009 06:27 AM

Very nice colours!

thyn 01-22-2009 06:40 AM

Lovely concepts... especially the one with sunset !

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