Ive decided to call this one done except for the projection. So far its doing well on cgtalk and I had european online magazine wanting to have me write a description of how completed this painting. I might do that for my self anyway and give them the ability to use it. Anyway I'll shut up with this... on a funny side note, wal-mart made me sign a copyright waiver saying that I was the copyright owner of this piece. I had a print made for my office and the kid behind the counter said it was from The Dark Knight and wal-mart would get sued if I tried to sell the print.... I laughed and signed the waiver.