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Default 12-08-2005, 03:07 PM

I don't understand why one can't color calibrate the LCD to accomidate for film. U can even output to a digital tv for preview with PSCS2. I have a Mitsu diamondplus 22" and I'm thinking of getting an lcd.

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Default 12-08-2005, 04:28 PM

Why can't you calibrate an LCD to match film? Because LCD technology
isn't capable of reproducing the full contrast spectrum accurately.
Plasma and DLP televisions have the same limitations, although all
the technologies are getting better all the time. I'm sure one day
soon, LCD displays will match or best CRT displays, but not yet.

Since contrast is SO crucial in visual effects work (value being
much more important than color in the way human vision works),
I'm sticking with CRT's for now.


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Default 12-08-2005, 04:46 PM

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Also if you are sending your work to an other LCD monitor, you know it would look exactly the same in your client office that it those on your own.
This is only an asset if your final output is another LCD monitor.

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Also the LCD (and that's an opinion many person in the industry have) is closer to the luminosity of film (when project in theater) then a CRT monitor.
Not true. Motion picture film is capable of a HUGE value range that no digital
device is capable of fully reproducing, not even CRT's can. But CRT's
do the best job of approximating what you'll get when you output to film.
And if "many people in the industry" thought LCD's did a more accurate
job, we'd all be using LCD's.

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Also, because it is more "bright" it's easier to see mistake in your painting. I think the problem we have is the bright feeling of the LCD... we are not use to it. But If LCD become the standar than I guess, its luminosity will be the reference. Since then, and because we are use to it, CRT will continue to feel more natural, but I think it is just a question of habit.
Not at all. When I'm working on a matte shot, I routinely throw on a levels
layer that cranks brightness and contrast, so I can see mistakes in my
value range. This is especially helpful to see mistakes that won't be
apparent until the film is transferred to video. However, I don't want to
work with that "layer" turned on all the time. There's no getting around it:
CRT's will take you accurately to the film recorder and the movie theater,
LCD's will not. Not yet, anyway.


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Default 12-31-2005, 07:49 AM

hi rick,

i decided to buy me a crt 22".....the flatscreens with AG pitch have these to lines appearing on the screen i heard....have you that too on your viesonic monitore and does it desturbing you when you are working??

i have 3 monitors in view:

Philips 202P40
Iiyama Vision Master 513
Viewsonic P225F

witch one ?

greets and a happy new year...
Rene
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Default CRTvLCD - 01-19-2006, 06:05 AM

LCDs are better for what CRTs can do for me now,
Making games and textures etc...
I have two monitors, a 22" Samsung and a 19"CRT Iiyama.
The Samsung LCD is sharper, but the colour is not as exacting as the Iiyama but to be honest I can't tell much more than opening a colour pallette and switching between monitors. Very close.

I think for printed matter and 'old' film use a CRT, but for web - portfolio stuff and games use a CRT.

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Motion picture film is capable of a HUGE value range that no digital
device is capable of fully reproducing, not even CRT's can. But CRT's
do the best job of approximating what you'll get when you output to film.
And if "many people in the industry" thought LCD's did a more accurate
job, we'd all be using LCD's.
Aren't we using digital cameras these days?!?


I squint to see distant objects.
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Default 01-19-2006, 07:51 AM

Shooting feature movies using HD cameras is still
far more the exception than the rule.


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Default 03-09-2006, 10:41 AM

i'm not a pro

i have an eizo s2110wk (16:10) and 1650x1080 native resolution. It's such an improvement to my old samtron 96p crt (19"). very sharp and well lighted in all edges.

i'll recommend it :)
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Default LCD - 10-16-2007, 01:41 PM

Is anyone using a decent LCD monitor for matte painting these days?
My monitor is getting on my tits with its crap colour reproduction.

It's an aging samsung 213T.
Any comments welcomed.


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Default 10-16-2007, 02:25 PM

I paint on my MacBook LCD, but I paint in 16bit and I dont use all white or all black because I know my image will go back to my CRT for final color correction.

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Aren't we using digital cameras these days?!?
Yes we are in some films, but many still use film. But even if we were stricktly using digital cameras we still use 4:4:4 HD cameras like the Genesis that basically create 12bit color pallette that still is beyond the gamut of CRTs and further beyond LCDs.


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Default 10-17-2007, 06:59 AM

CRT, LCDs are so wrong. For colour correcting makes sure your CRT has been switched on for at least 30 minuts prior.

This is how we submitsend to high end printers

Rich


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